Interview with Culpepper
Featuring Paul Leslie Culp (formerly of Shaky Hands) and Dana Lacona (formerly of Starlite Desperation), along with Joel Wasko and Paul’s song Max, Portland, Oregon’s Culpepper has recently released their outstanding new eight song debut Superreactor. I recently had the chance to talk to Paul about the album, having a father and son in the band, their plans for the future (including an upcoming EP) and more.
Can you give me a little background on the band?
Dana and I are from a shithole town in central California.
This was pre internet when weirdo freak kids discovered music by talking to the
weirdo freak adult who worked at the record store or drove to an open field to
tune into the local AM college radio station. There wasn’t a lot of us so when
we met we tended to run in packs. We listened to bands like Sonic Youth,
Flaming Lips, Pixies, Spiritualized - things that sound great on drugs. Dana
could play guitar and his brother played drums, so I learned how to play sloppy
bass and we started a “band.”
Dana went on to form Starlight Desperation, moved to LA and
played with bands like BJM, Yeah Yeahs, Makeup, and Detroit Cobras. I moved to
Portland and played with a band called The Shaky Hands and my own band,
Lonesome Radio Heart. We kept in touch here and there but rarely saw each
other.
Around 2018-19 I started Culpepper with Joel on bass and Max
on drums. We rented an abandoned theater in SE Portland and started writing and
recording. Then the pandemic hit and I was writing alone. I would send the
bones of songs to Joel and Max and they added parts. Then I got sick and it all
went on hold for 6 months.
We started piecing it all together after I recovered but the
mood and sound was so different from what we started with. We were wrestling
with this when Dana moved to Portland. He joined the project and it came
together real quick after that. We finished the album and started playing
shows.
The lyrics are credited to you and then music to
everyone. How does the songwriting process tend to work?
I write the bones of a song. Sometimes it’s just a raw
acoustic song and sometimes it’s a rough demo with just enough accompaniment to
get the point across. Then I bring it to the band and it gets ripped up and
pieced back together. I think of it like we’re doing a cover of the demo. Just
let go of the demo and see what happens. We usually end up with something
completely unrecognizable. I think it’s more interesting when you take a little
crafted pop song that you might find precious and then sacrifice it to the
band. That precious song is somewhere in there but it’s no longer yours and
it’s no longer obvious. It’s richer and augmented by fellow songwriters with
their own influences.
Your bio talks about a completely different set of songs
that were being worked on when a series of life events occurred and a whole new
set of songs became the album. Did any of the original songs make it to
the album and do you think we will ever hear any of those other songs?
Nothing from before made it onto the album. It was all new
material. However, we recently recorded an EP at Alberta Abbey with Sean Flora,
a fantastic producer and engineer (won a Grammy for The Shins, Wincing the
Night Away) who helped us record two older songs and two new ones. But they
also went through the Culpepper grinder and turned into something new. So we’re
excited to put that out soon.
To me alot of the lyrics have a bit of a tragic element to
them and some seem a bit apocalyptic. Would you agree and can you
elaborate a little on that?
Yeah. My wife and I dissolved a 20 year marriage, my dad died, a good friend of mine died, and the pandemic hit. Everything was on fire. Centuries of racial injustice, government mistrust, white nationalism, batshit conspiracy theories turning mainstream, transphobia, wealth disparity, and the beginning of the collapse of traditional work culture. We got tear gassed, chased by Nazis, and cops and the feds were abducting people in unmarked cars - absolute fucking insanity. We’re irreversibly fucked up because of it. That’s some long lasting collective human trauma.
However, I have to note, I’ve always written in apocalyptic
tones. It comes with the ticket. If anything, Superreactor is the least apocalyptic
thing I’ve ever written. It’s just a matter of style at this point.
There seems to be a bit of diversity from track to track,
but then at the same time, it’s a very cohesive set of songs. Was that
something you strived for?
Thank you for saying that. Honestly I don’t know. They were
all written in a short amount of time. Dana and I spent a lot of time mixing it
ourselves. Something happened there to keep it together. Collective taste and
influences go a long way in a band.
In your press info there is a lot of emphasis on the indie
rock and psychedelic aspect of your music, but I feel like there is a bit of an
underlying alt country influence on some of the songs including the great
Morricone flavored spaghetti western like guitar on “Big Bang” and “All
Hands”. Do you feel that’s accurate?
Yeah, you’re not wrong. I was raised on country. One of the
first songs I learned was “My heroes have always been cowboys.” One of the
first songs I wrote was called “Johnny Cash.” I knew Morricone before I knew
John Williams. It’s baked in from a young age.
Another tune that sticks out a bit from the rest is “Lilly
Says”. It has more of a spacy psychedelic sound that wouldn’t be all that
out of place at a rave. Can you tell me a little about that track?
I think the ravers would disagree. It’s a protest song. It
takes place on a biblical scale so it’s naturally psychedelic. Otherwise it’s
deadly serious. But you can dance to it, for sure.
“Going Home” sounds like it has some horns in it. Is
that what I’m hearing?
That there is Joel on trumpet. He crazy.
There is a really cool little acoustic guitar section in the
middle of “Plague Champagne”. Can you tell me about that?
I recorded that in a studio apartment. I wanted it to be
electric guitar but all my stuff was at the theater, so I improvised. We all
ended up liking the juxtaposition of the acoustic weaving in with all these big
synths. Plus it’s an intimate song and it helps emphasize that, I think.
I hear a little of Bowie’s “Heroes” influence on “Coming
Awake”. Is that something that you thought of when recording it?
Nope. We added that last. That was Dana having fun with
keys. Otherwise it was way more Tom Petty than David Bowie.
Can you tell me a little about the dynamic of having a
father and son in the band?
Max and my two oldest kids, Sam and Erik, were both raised
playing music with me and everyone else. Max and Sam have their own band,
Weehawk, and side projects like Mannies, and Kill Michael. They were writing
songs at six years old. We speak the same musical language and geek out about
music like old friends and bandmates. When I bring a song to the table, Max
knows what I’m going for. If not, all I have to say is “that part in that one
Kinks song” and they know. Maybe that’s weird but it feels pretty natural to
me. And I think it’s pretty fucking cool.
I see you’ve been playing some live shows. How have
those been going?
Amazing. Playing live feels like home. We always want to put
on a show, as opposed to going to see a couple dudes playing their songs
staring at their shoes. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. That’s half
of my favorite bands. But we appreciate a bit of theatrics and showmanship.
Showing out like we mean it. We want to create memorable, live experiences that
are worth the time and door charge. Worth getting a sitter, inviting friends,
getting dressed up. That’s our goal. We’re just beginning.
I didn’t see any mention of physical copies of
Superreactor. Is there anything available or in the works if not?
Vinyl albums will be here right after Christmas! They’ve been
on back order for a long time but we’re excited to hold them and cuddle up to
them at night. We’ll announce that and shirts, stickers, custom incense,
sigils, homunculi, summoning rituals, and more soon on our Instagram and
Bandcamp.
Now that the album is out there what can we be expecting
next?
We’re mixing a 4 song EP as I write this and are currently
writing our second album. Also apocalyptic but with a positive spin and totally
danceable. We’re also building a studio to record us and other local Portland
friends and maybe grow that into something new. Either way expect a 2023 summer
banger.
Is there anything else you would like to share with readers?
Y’all are perfect just as you are. Just try to be better
tomorrow.